Red Card Sanctions

What do other leagues do in respect of red card sanctions?

In the Oxfordshire Walking Football League, we play rounds of fixtures once a month and a player receiving a red card is (a) banned for the rest of the games that day and (b) also banned from the next 2 rounds of games. 

However, standard County FA rules for 'regular' football normally dictate a 2 'match' ban.  We consider a 2 'match' ban equates to our 2 rounds, as if we had to strictly comply with the word 'matches' a player could then potentially turn up at the very next round of games, sit out the first two games and then play in the remain matches that day - hardly a great deterent!

Discuss......

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  • We had something very similar after our first match day where someone was given a red card and their ban was from "all Sunday football" until "3 matches were played". We queried this with the county FA and they said that there was no way around the sanction, but for us that would have given the person a whole match day ban, but still not felt to be a good enough sanction. However, as he was banned from all football, it meant that he also couldn't play for another walking football team in a different league so there were other consequences in our case. 

  • Thanks Hannah - looks like this could be a real grey area and certainly not suited to the way most walking football competitions/leagues are run.  Hopefully, we might get some steer/direction from the FA...and at best confirm that we can adopt an approach that the FA's standard one match ban eqautes to walking football's one round of matches on a single day, so long as we make it crystal clear in our individual league competition rules at th outset...

  • On the Somerset FA run Walking Football Tournaments we use the small sided soccer module which means sanctions on the day and do not get reported through Wholegame, which sounds as though this happened in Hannah's example. All sanctions are match based exactly as per FA Sanctions, this does mean that depending on how many fixtures the team has during the day a player maybe eligible to play later in the day. It does also mean that the sanction may carry over into the next tournament run by Somerset FA, but does not stop the player playing in other tournaments. There is a caveat in that if the sending off warrants an extraordinary report then this will be entered on Wholegame by the Referee and an appropriate sanction from the County FA / The FA awarded. 

  • That sounds remarkably lenient - a player can be red carded in first match and then able to play again on same day in perhaps the fourth match of what could be a 6 or 7 match event....

  • I would very much like to resurrect this question as we now have a situation here in Oxfordshire where a player has been given a 3 match ban for a red card S2 - violent conduct offence.....we run 'round-robin' events, so does he just sit out 3 of the 5 games at the next Sunday session, or should he be banned for 3 Sunday's worth of games?

    The FA really do need to make the sanctions appropriate for walking football and round-robin type sessions!!

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  • I would very much like to resurrect this question as we now have a situation here in Oxfordshire where a player has been given a 3 match ban for a red card S2 - violent conduct offence.....we run 'round-robin' events, so does he just sit out 3 of the 5 games at the next Sunday session, or should he be banned for 3 Sunday's worth of games?

    The FA really do need to make the sanctions appropriate for walking football and round-robin type sessions!!

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  • I don't know if it is 100% within the FA "guidelines" but we have a league rule wrt this and they get sent away from the venue and take no further part in the event/day. so depends on how many more matches the team had. Could be 1, could be 10. Personally I cannot believe we are having this discussion wrt walking football. it's unbelievable. So, is a way around this a local league rule? If so I would go with 3 events/meetings. (3 Sunday's worth as you put it). This kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable in WF and needs to be shown we take it seriously and the punishment is severe.

  • To put more context around this particular incident - the player was red carded in the very last game of the round robin event, so no more games that day to ban him from.

    The referee correctly reported the red card via the FA system online.

    Our local FA in turn imposed a 3-match ban. 

    It was for violent contact towards another player - witnessed by quite a few individuals on the sidelines including myself.  He was totally out of order and very obvious that the 'red mist' had descended on him!

    This now leaves us with the dilemma of what '3 matches' actually means - Our next round of games is at the start of July and his team will be playing 5 games that day....

    So, can he play in the 4th and 5th games that day, or should he be banned from all games in our July, Aug and Sept rounds?

  • the dilemma here is what seems morally correct and right and what the FA states. Personally the latter sounds more appropriate to me.Is there anything within the league constitution or rules that caters for such an event? If you take the refs training from trainee to no longer trainee. It said 5 games or 3 tournaments / league meetings with multiple games. There is therefore an implication that a single 15 minute game let's say is not the same as a 90 min game and the rounds are more comparable to a 90 min game. Albeit somewhere in between the two. I really would not be happy with a simple 3 game ban.

  • I am absolutely in agreement with you, but it does need the FA to lead with this.....we can't simply make up local rules, especially as some of these players also play in adjoining County FA leagues - so things need to be consistent across the board

  • Don't get me wrong. I totally agree in that it needs to be consistent. Technically the only deviance away from the laws in local league rules is around sin bin time wrt to sanctions and that's it. Waiting for the FA sometimes is an eternity, sorry FA, so we placed this specific rule in a long time ago and make a point of it before every league event. To date, never been used.